i had no reason to ever question the validity of who trevor and linda were.
i believed.
isn't that what friends do, trust?
Thanks for the response, fifi.
I've been feeling constantly in need of validation lately.Seriously, it's getting a bit ridiculous.
Someone was asking me about the EF thing before, and I can't even remember what he said . . . too self-absorbed, of course . . .
and apparently touched 3 others,,,,.
in richmond,,where the airport is,,,,ugh.
orb.
How awful!! I am sorry to hear this.
i am reading this now.
i think we should have a book discussion group at this forum.
any takers?
Well, apparently, I'm not the only one with retention issues.
if what is going on with this "trevorgate" thing is true, i think it is best to simply make a donation to a good cause, instead of directly to the person, unless you have absoulute, direct contact with the situation entirely.
because of my awakenings about all of my own family and jw mental health issues - and in light of the info i've come across today about linda and trevor - i am inspired to make donations to nami and other mental health organizations in the name of "trevor s." and other deluded or abusive people who seriously need help.. there are enough stressors and depressers in my life, without trying to help people who have imaginary problems, (although i don't doubt they too need help - just not the kind of help i can offer!).
if a person or people are laughing at us for our desire to reach out, be humane, offer compassion and act as a family in the way that many of us have been denied by the wtb&ts, the person perpetrating the hoax is so deeply damaged that seeking to punish him/her is counterproductive; however, he/she definitely needs to be confronted and face the natural consequences.
Thank you, eclipse. I have more of a broken heart over all this mess with whackos here.
I'm a little whacky myself, but I certainly know when people need help, they need help.
I actually did see the eryn thread but felt suspiscious of it because of all this other mess with Trev & fullofdoubt.
I am truly sorry if anyone was offended. I know there's a lot of trouble in a lot of peoples' lives right now, due to illness, isolation, economic problems, etc.
It's truly sad when people play games and mess about with our emotions so that we end up feeling paranoid about being helpful or being ourselves.
Hugs eryn!
if what is going on with this "trevorgate" thing is true, i think it is best to simply make a donation to a good cause, instead of directly to the person, unless you have absoulute, direct contact with the situation entirely.
because of my awakenings about all of my own family and jw mental health issues - and in light of the info i've come across today about linda and trevor - i am inspired to make donations to nami and other mental health organizations in the name of "trevor s." and other deluded or abusive people who seriously need help.. there are enough stressors and depressers in my life, without trying to help people who have imaginary problems, (although i don't doubt they too need help - just not the kind of help i can offer!).
if a person or people are laughing at us for our desire to reach out, be humane, offer compassion and act as a family in the way that many of us have been denied by the wtb&ts, the person perpetrating the hoax is so deeply damaged that seeking to punish him/her is counterproductive; however, he/she definitely needs to be confronted and face the natural consequences.
eclipse - I was referring exclusively to the trevorgate issue, and making no allusions to any other situation on this board.
There are a lot of legitimate people with legitimate problems here, I am sure.
I am truly sorry if what I said above offended anyone with a genuine dilemma.
It was NOT about or directed at anything other than the latest drama of Linda and Trevor because no one else on this board has ever given me reason to suspect they are untrustworthy.
I just thought L&T were the real thing and am dismayed by it all.
i had no reason to ever question the validity of who trevor and linda were.
i believed.
isn't that what friends do, trust?
Go away saddo with your sick little mind....meant for our newbie visitorThank you. Talk about trust issues. Geez. |
we've already had a post on this, but there were other interesting comments.. the brother giving the announcements said that there would be a new understanding of jesus' reference to the generation as discussed at the annual meeting.. an elder giving a service meeting part review of different watchtower articles from the current year brought out the new light concerning 1935.. he asks: "when is the sealing of the anounted ones?".
elder answers: "there is no specific date".
later after the meeting, i asked an elder if the new understanding of the remnant now meant that younger people could go to heaven.. he answered with an affirmative "yes" and that we would be getting the new understanding of the generation jesus spoke of in a future 2008 watchtower.. .
Maybe this could be a golden opportunity for ex-members to return and "accept" the "new light" and help others get out. Just a thought. Then again, I'm kinda' busy lately, what with all this internet stuff and procrastinating my real job.
go easy on me, please, as i am new to this board.
i have a question, i know chances are this has been answered in one form or another.
but can anyone tell me, exactly or roughly how much of the bible jw's actually use.
Use the bible? Of course they do, just like every other cult and every other religion; they cherry pick it. And why not? After all, if we all used the bible in its every literal sense, most of us would go to jail or the mental hospital.
i had no reason to ever question the validity of who trevor and linda were.
i believed.
isn't that what friends do, trust?
Perhaps your time was not stolen, purps. Perhaps it was borrowed so that others could see your wonderful talent.
I would never have known what a gifted artist you are, had it not been for the lovely things you posted. Maybe others would not have, either.
If nothing else, at least we're all getting to know each other a bit better after this round of fraud. It is a pisser. I feel so foolish, and yet, whatever.
There will always be real people in real need at this board. We just gotta' take the good with the bad I guess, and keep ourselves safe.
I cried a couple of times over Linda, being reminded of the death of a close friend to breast cancer and her husband's death this summer. They were more like parents to me than my own living JW parents.
Now I'm processing my own grief and anxiety over an abuse issue which I want to talk about here, but, alas, I am completely disgusted, all-around, and feeling very vulnerable . . . thank goodness there are others in my world who know where I am physically and emotionally, and who really care! Still, none of them were JWs or know what it's like to cope with that, on top of a family's denial and sickness, coupled with "theocratic warfare" to cover up their shame.
And now there are all these silly people making up stories for attention. Well, every one needs attention, but why can't some people figure out how to get it in undamaging ways? I feel so frustrated. Anyway, whatever.
Be well, all.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/tech/science/10/18/science.race/index.html.
a british museum has canceled a lecture by dr. james watson, co-discoverer of the dna double helix, after he claimed black people are less intelligent than whites in a recent newspaper interview.. watson, who won the 1962 nobel prize for his part in discovering the structure of dna, provoked a storm of criticism after his comments were published in the sunday times.. the eminent biologist told the british newspaper he was "inherently gloomy about the prospect of africa" because "all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours -- whereas all the testing says not really.".
watson, 79, had been due to give a lecture at london's science museum on friday but the museum canceled his appearance, saying his comments had "gone beyond the point of acceptable debate.".
He was also commenting on how help given to African countries may be misplaced because of lower intellegence.
Even if that sentiment rang remotely true, how do people who have evolved to be humane and compassionate justify NOT helping those less fortunate, especially those viewed as having "lower intelligence" due to a misguided belief in the construct of inferior races (which is complete balderdash anyway)?
Choosing to believe or to find reinforcement for such beliefs simply demonstrates the ignorance of the person or people presenting their pseudo-scientific pre-conceived prejudicial notions.
It always says a lot more about the nature and character of the person or people defending this kind of so-called research than it does about the supposedly inferior race.
